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SJW's New Ministry of Truth

"youtube, but good"

Their slogan, from their Reddit page

"BreadTube is a place for the new wave of creators, journalists and artists making high-quality content that goes against the prevailing winds of the internet."

Also from their reddit page

BreadTube, also known as LeftTube is a loose collective of leftists who, as the name implies, are mostly active on YouTube (post-2013) (they also have a fairly large presence on Reddit).

Origins And Summary

Breadtube has it's origins in the beginning of the culture war back in 2014 when Youtuber Libertarian Socialist Rants did a response video to then-prominant anti-SJW/Anti-feminist NateTalksToYou, laying the groundwork for later leftist youtubers. Later in 2015, male third-wave feminist geek YouTuber Harris Brewis, better known by his moniker H.Bomberguy made a series of videos mocking the strained production of "The Sarkeesian Effect" (He cites Dan Olson and his channel Folding Ideas as being his biggest inspiration and has collaborated with Dan on numerous occasions). Ever since then, more leftist YouTubers have crawled out of the woodwork. These YouTubers include Contrapoints (real name Natalie Wynn, a transwoman, and former academic philosopher. She films her videos with a combination of dark, theatrical humor, surreal atmosphere and colorful characters all played by herself), and Shaun (a British socialist, formerly a gaming channel called Shaun and Jen, who in comparison to the other BreadTubers, is rather bare-bones. Reading his response to another video over a still image of his avatar, a skull wearing sunglasses, often superimposed with videos, articles, and other images he uses to help make his point. The reason for his avatar is to "reclaim the skull" from the alt-right), and Philosophy Tube (real name Abigail Thorn; a British philosopher and actor who discusses political issues through a leftist perspective involving philosophy and, as of late, theatrics). Below is a list of a few other BreadTube channels;

Their stated goal is to challenge anti-SJWs and right-wingers online and to "de-radicalize"/draw young people away from them. The name "BreadTube" comes from The Conquest of Bread, aka the "Bread Book," by anarchist writer Pyotr Kropotkin.

Why They're Rotten

  1. They're glorified Social Justice Warriors, or at the very least apologists for them. They bring up and reinforce the same old SJW/Regressive Left beliefs and talking points (e.g., "Gender is a social construct," "White men have all the power and privilege and don't suffer oppression," "Minority anti-SJWs are just internalized bigots or pawns" "Trump is a bigot and all his supporters are neo-nazis", "GamerGate is an alt-right hate mob and Quinn and Sarkeesian are poor little helpless victims" etc.). Unlike typical Social Justice Warriors, they have clever manipulation tactics, utilizing a combination of faux-intellectualism, straw-manning/nutpicking, and in some cases, great performance talent, SFX, and funny gags (ironically the ones they accuse the alt-right of using) to seduce and brainwash people into joining the regressive left (in other words, blue pilling them) under the guise of "de-radicalizing" them. Also, they have been at least somewhat successful in swaying some GamerGaters/anti-SJWs (mainly weak-willed individuals who would have also been just as easily swayed by genuine far-righters, but also some hardline ones such as Theryn Meyer, formerly a staunch anti-SJW and a supporter of MRAs, who now works as an assistant director, co-writer, creative assistant and sound editor on Contrapoints's videos and Dusty Smith AKA *CultOfDusty also a former staunch Anti-SJW), partially helped by the failure of “The Sarkeesian Effect” and the downfall of the anti-SJW community (though the media does exaggerate their success).
  2. Like regular SJWs, they tend to be very biased against conservatives, MRAs, anti-feminists, critics of Islam, and even centrists/classical liberals (with some, such as Contrapoints, taking somewhat of a "with us or against us" attitude towards them, saying their neutrality enables fascists) and are probably the reason why YouTube is also becoming biased against those groups.
  3. Many of them are far-leftists like anarchists, communists, and even tankies (their name even comes from the writings of an anarcho-communist).
    • Also, some of them, such as BadMouseProductions, apologize for communist regimes and insist that capitalism has caused more deaths, even in parts of the world where it is barely active.
      • And they sometimes even blame capitalism for things like flat earth belief (which has been around LONG BEFORE the modern capitalist system).
  4. As mentioned above, they are Anti-GamerGate and extremely defensive of Anita Sarkeesian, Zoë Quinn, and others.
  5. Many of their styles aren't that original. Shaun, for example, is an almost complete pastiche of TL;DR, while Gutian is a more edgy-sounding Sargon of Akkad.
  6. Many of them seem ignorant, willfully or not, of their side's toxicity. For example, H.Bomberguy made a video mocking the idea that White Knights only defend women in return for sex. He ignores the numerous male feminists and white knights who were exposed as hypocrites who abused their position to either get close to women and sexually harass them or to commit/cover up some other form of sexual misdemeanor.
    • Even those who do seem to be aware of their side's toxicity downplay it greatly.
    • As typical of Social Justice Warriors and regressive far-leftists, they also dismiss/downplay any issues with modern feminism, the fat acceptance movement, Anti-GG, radical Islam, ANTIFA, Black Lives Matter, political correctness or identity politics and thereby ensure these issues go unresolved.
  7. As mentioned above, many of them engage in straw-manning;
    • At least three of contrapoints' characters are strawman parodies such as Jackie Jackson (a parody of Dave Rubin), Justine (a strawman of left-leaning centrists, portrayed as being easily misled by fascists) and Tiffany Tumbles (a scathing caricature of Blaire White and other trans anti-SJWs, presented as an alcoholic, internalized transphobe who bullies other trans people).
    • Ian Danskin/Innuendo Studios is another prominent example who regularly strawman's his opponents with his most (in)famous example "Angry Jack", a strawman of Gamergators (& Anti-SJWs in general) depicted as a perpetually angry, cis-white male who's secretly afraid of losing his privilege and is willing to ally with "psychopaths" to keep it.
    • In this Kat Blaque video (with commentary by Joshua Powell) which starts as a thinly-veiled parody of Laci Green's Red Pill video. She then spends the rest of the video misrepresenting anti-SJW and anti-Feminist arguments while creating thinly-veiled parodies of Armoured Skeptic, Shoe0nhead, Some Black Guy, and Blaire White and claims anti-SJWs and anti-feminists, who happen to be women or minorities, are just in it for the money.
    • Another example is when MrTARDISreviews claimed that UK TV presenter Jeremy Clarkson was a holocaust denier simply because he voiced a critical opinion of the new female Doctor Who. In reality, all Clarkson said in the review was that Holocaust denial wasn't a serious issue as fringe nutjobs only believe it. A debatable statement, but hardly the same as actually being a holocaust denier.
    • Another example is in this video by Suris in which he is critiquing No Bullshit on the subject of Pokémon. While Suris does provide fair and valid rebuttals to No Bullshit’s arguments through most of the video, near the end where No BS mentions the SJWs bigotry towards white people and erasure of white characters in media in favor of non-whites, Suris for some reason compares this line of thought to the Great Replacement, even though what he said was that SJWs have bigotry towards whites. Which. They. Very. Clearly. Do.
  8. Nutpicking: when attacking GamerGaters/anti-SJWs, they tend to go after the worst examples (e.g., Milo Yianuopolis, Black Pigeon Speaks, No Bullshit, and other extreme conservatives) and present them as being typical of GamerGaters/anti-SJWs or criticize the worst moments of certain individuals who otherwise make valid points (e.g., Sargon of Akkad) in order to distract people from the stupidity on their side.
  9. Like regular SJWs, they have an intense hatred of PewDiePie, claiming he's the equivalent of a gateway drug to the alt-right.
  10. Like typical SJWs and regressive leftists, they greatly overestimate the threat the far-right/alt-right poses to society.
  11. Just as they defend SJW beliefs, some of them also defend SJW and feminazi terminology. For example, PIGPUNCHER/Xanderhal and Suris have both defended the term "Toxic Masculinity", Suris doing so on at least two occasions.
  12. While at least some of the people they’ve supposedly "de-radicalized" genuinely were far-right, what they are "de-radicalized" into isn’t always a suitable alternative. For example, Micah Loewinger and Evan Heimbaugh, one formerly a neo-nazi, the other a right-leaning libertarian. After being "de-radicalized" by Contrapoints, Lindsay Ellis and Philosophy Tube, they became anarchists.
  13. Many of them, like H.Bomberguy and Shaun, can be rather smug and condescending.
  14. Many of them present themselves as being honest, intellectual people who produce "high-quality, well-researched work" and calmly debunk "alt-right bullshit". In reality, many aren't as smart as they or their fans think they are. They will also engage in the same dishonest tactics used by the mainstream media (deliberate misinterpretation, taking things out of context, cherry-picking information while omitting important details, and even outright lying) and hypocritically, will accuse/criticize their opponents for using the same tactics. Shaun & Ian Danskin/Innuendo Studios are infamous examples, as can be seen from the numerous videos below.
    • They will sometimes go to desperate lengths to attack/discredit anti-SJWs. For example, Shaun took Sargon's satirical #Feminists4Autism video and treated it as if it was serious.
    • And some of them, like PIGPUNCHER/Xanderhal, cyberwitchlexi, and Chud Logic, act no better than typical SJWs and Regressive Left pundits. They get triggered at things they don't like or find offensive, throw loaded terms and petty insults like Nazi, Fascist, Boomer, Incel, etc. at people and groups they don't like and tar gamers and nerdsas racists and sexists.
      • In addition, the aforementioned Breadtubers, as well as Vaush and other members of the "dirtbag left" often make attempts to be edgy which comes off as cringeworthy at best. For example, Vaush once said that the LGBT community is complete cancer.
  15. Since they reinforce regressive left propaganda (and have done somewhat successfully), they are fully endorsed by the mainstream media and pro-SJW journalists, who have done numerous puff pieces on them and exaggerate their success and influence.
  16. They even rip off Anti-SJWs wholesale, using terminology commonly associated with them or making similar-sounding terms (Virtue Signalling, Breadpill/Breadpilling, etc.) and making cringe compilations.
  17. In ContraPoints' video entitled "Cringe", she gets mad at a trans woman for being "masculine", despite that Natalie is trans herself. Let people present how they want to present, you don't control their lives.
  18. They have some outright atrocious YouTubers and people among their ranks such as Dan Olson, Peter Coffin, and Lily Orchard.
  19. While they are usually open to debating their opposition unlike regular SJWs, sometimes they will act like stereotypical SJWs and refuse to debate the opposing party and/or get triggered when one of their own debates the opposition. For example, recently Peter Coffin announced he would have a "friendly chat" with Milo Yiannopolis during the DNC which pissed off many on the bread tube subreddit.
  20. In light of the death of George Floyd and the resulting riots, some such as Ian Danskin/Innuendo Studios and Thoughtslime have voiced support for the destruction of statues and burning of flags.
  21. Being a group that panders to, and reinforces SJW beliefs, their fanbases, unsurprisingly, consist mostly of Social Justice Warriors and Radical Feminists. Their fanbase has made many of them almost-untouchable, but has inevitably backfired on some of them and led to many needless dramas and infighting in the community:
  22. In addition to the above, the unofficial founder of BreadTube, Libertarian Socialist Rants, has become a standard woke twitter user and drug addict who has become mixed up with university anarchists as well.
  23. They also seem to have failed in their mission since even in the current year, their video view and subscriber count don't come anywhere near those of popular Anti-SJWs & worse yet, there are still people in the Anti-SJW community who haven't even heard of BreadTube.
  24. They have recently gotten triggered at the teaser trailer for Call of Duty:Cold War for its anti-socialist stance & featuring an interview with former KGB agent & soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov, accusing it of spreading the "cultural Marxist conspiracy theory" & calling Yuri a "far-right activist" when all he did was a defect from & oppose the Soviet Union & communism for its totalitarian nature which shows how far-left Breadtube has become.

Redeeming Qualities

  1. They make valid criticisms of unchecked capitalism, the Alt-Right, the Manosphere/MGTOW and extreme conservatives/Obsessive Anti-SJWs.
  2. They’re supportive of more reasonable socialist and left-wing concepts like free tuition and same-sex marriage.
  3. Some of them, like H.Bomberguy, Contrapoints, Philosophy Tube and Lindsay Ellis, have great talent and can be entertaining to watch.
    • Also, they produce thoughtful essays on certain subjects.
  4. At least some of them do have a grasp on how toxic their side is and do show common sense. Kyle Kulinski a.k.a. Secular Talk admits that regressive leftists can exist and has stated he dislikes SJWs (though he's rather biased towards MRAs, calling them "stupid" and "whiny"). Anthony Fantano is also highly critical of SJWs (even though he can be quite biased and hypocritical himself at times). Lindsay Ellis has criticized woke culture. Two of Contrapoints' characters mock far-leftists (such as Tabby, who is a satire on Antifa, and Abigail Cockbane, who is a stereotypical pink-haired radical feminist who hates BDSM and other kinks and is also Trans-Exclusionary).
    • Contrapoints, in particular, seems to be waking up more to her side's toxicity with her critique of cancel culture.
    • In addition, some of them are even willing to criticize other breadtubers. PIGPUNCHER/Xanderhal for example has criticized Lily Orchard and Essence of Thought (though only because they criticized Contrapoints). Vaush has also criticized Lily Orchard (Though again, only because she criticized Contrapoints).
  5. Not all of them are necessarily horrible people, just misguided and seemingly unaware/ignorant (or not fully aware) of the toxicity of their side, or can still do some good deeds;
    • Unlike standard SJWs, some of them, such as Contrapoints, are willing to engage in civilized debate with those whom they disagree. Though as mentioned above, there are exceptions.
    • As mentioned above, at least some of the people they've supposedly "de-radicalized" genuinely were far-right.
    • Also as mentioned, they are against the Far-Right/Alt-Right and genuinely crazy groups such as Christian fundamentalists, TERFs, neo-Nazis, holocaust deniers, Flat-Earthers and climate change deniers.

Gallery

Videos

Note: due to performance issues, all videos will be displayed in BreadTube/Videos.

See Also

References

  1. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/breadtube.54697/
  2. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/ian-crosby-danskin-innuendo-studios.70221/
  3. http://archive.md/95qm5
  4. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebVideo/HBomberguy
  5. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebVideo/ContraPoints
  6. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebVideo/Shaun
  7. https://humanevents.com/2019/11/05/contrapoints-vs-non-binary-nonsense
  8. https://arcdigital.media/contrapoints-and-the-scandal-that-shouldnt-be-15ac97f330d4
  9. https://medium.com/mos-home-for-treatises-and-hot-takes/holy-shit-contra-said-a-thing-well-guess-i-better-singlehandedly-solve-breadtube-e84b3bfeeaed
  10. https://burrunjor.com/2019/03/14/sjws-dont-like-female-heroes/
  11. https://archive.vn/vyz3o
  12. https://archive.vn/oX7rM
  13. https://archive.vn/tSHqT
  14. https://archive.vn/m1hd1
  15. https://archive.vn/nLdam
  16. https://archive.vn/s2H0p

Comments


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EijiZeBoi

11 months ago
Score -1
IMHO Lindsay is the best out of all of them.
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Reebok300

11 months ago
Score -1
Agreed. She's only very loosely associated with Breadtube (in that she's friends with hbomberguy & contrapoints & has collaborated with the latter on a few occasions), has criticized woke culture & thankfully stays out of politics.
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Grammer Guy

6 months ago
Score 3
More like youtube, but bad.
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VSSVintorez908

6 months ago
Score 3

I thought that BreadTube was YouTube,

but for bread videos.
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Hugh201

14 days ago
Score 0
I would actually watch that
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Markochan

5 months ago
Score 2
These people are weird.
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Rupp

5 months ago
Score 1
What I've noticed among fringe people is that they hijack the anarchist or libertarian labels, but in reality, they're very authoritarian. I've heard thought slime say some pretty authoritarian things in the past. Also, not alt-left, but alt-right; nutter Alex Jones hijacked the libertarian label in the past, and he's very authoritarian.
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JAndTheBigTV

one month ago
Score 1
That's why Obsessive Anti-SJWs has a page as well.
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AsterZ

one month ago
Score 0

Honestly, I'm glad this article doesn't just forget all the annoying aspects of Breadtube and SJW culture.

I think the main reason they are popular is because of the failure of the "AntiSJW Community". I think most people are just interested in the economical side and dunking on conservatives. Things that are VERY easy to get into. And that might not last.
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Wave95

one month ago
Score -2
Eh, although not that good, breadtube is better than the extreme "anti sjw community".
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Radioactive Vampire

one month ago
Score 1
Far better than this pathetic propaganda garbage of site

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