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#Scratch 3.0, while not terrible, is often considered inferior to its previous version for numerous reasons:
 
#Scratch 3.0, while not terrible, is often considered inferior to its previous version for numerous reasons:
 
##It broke tons of sprites and [https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/113321949/ projects].
 
##It broke tons of sprites and [https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/113321949/ projects].
###Some examples of broken sprites are the pre-3.0 PTEs by -Rex-, and the Human 1.x characters.
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##*Some examples of broken sprites are the pre-3.0 PTEs by -Rex-, and the Human 1.x characters.
 
##Uploading images takes up more memory than usual, and long-list items were cut off, yet the Scratch Team has done nothing to fix the broken sprites and projects and reduce memory.
 
##Uploading images takes up more memory than usual, and long-list items were cut off, yet the Scratch Team has done nothing to fix the broken sprites and projects and reduce memory.
 
##They removed a lot of features that 2.0 had, such as the magic wand tool.
 
##They removed a lot of features that 2.0 had, such as the magic wand tool.
###Additionally, uploading png images <span class=plainlinks>[https://static.miraheze.org/rottenwebsiteswiki/0/09/Screenshot_2021-05-25_12.36.58_PM.png causes it to be super pixelated.]
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##*Additionally, uploading png images <span class=plainlinks>[https://static.miraheze.org/rottenwebsiteswiki/0/09/Screenshot_2021-05-25_12.36.58_PM.png causes it to be super pixelated.]
 
##While they did change the way selecting audio works in 3.0 where if you were selecting parts of audio then it was have to have to start from either the end or the start of the audio back, they removed many of the effects and edits you could add for some reason.
 
##While they did change the way selecting audio works in 3.0 where if you were selecting parts of audio then it was have to have to start from either the end or the start of the audio back, they removed many of the effects and edits you could add for some reason.
 
##The website layout is inconsistent. <span class=plainlinks>[https://static.miraheze.org/rottenwebsiteswiki/b/b5/2.0_vs_3.0.png Some pages have the 3.0 layout (like project pages and the search bar), but others have the 2.0 layout (like profile and studio pages)].
 
##The website layout is inconsistent. <span class=plainlinks>[https://static.miraheze.org/rottenwebsiteswiki/b/b5/2.0_vs_3.0.png Some pages have the 3.0 layout (like project pages and the search bar), but others have the 2.0 layout (like profile and studio pages)].
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##When they DO reply, most of the time, they don't take action, [https://static.miraheze.org/rottenwebsiteswiki/7/70/Screenshot_2021-04-29_11.50.07_PM.png they just use this response].
 
##When they DO reply, most of the time, they don't take action, [https://static.miraheze.org/rottenwebsiteswiki/7/70/Screenshot_2021-04-29_11.50.07_PM.png they just use this response].
 
#Getting to be an [https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/413689067/ Design Studio helper] is too much work, even if it's to prevent people from [[w:Wikipedia:Hat collecting|hat collecting]]. Plus, they are sometimes biased towards SJF toadies when picking new people.
 
#Getting to be an [https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/413689067/ Design Studio helper] is too much work, even if it's to prevent people from [[w:Wikipedia:Hat collecting|hat collecting]]. Plus, they are sometimes biased towards SJF toadies when picking new people.
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==Good Qualities==
 
==Good Qualities==
 
#The site is still a great start for people who want to code. It's easy to understand and learn.
 
#The site is still a great start for people who want to code. It's easy to understand and learn.

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Scratch (2019-present)
Scratch Cat.jpg
Imagine a site now full of toxic kids, program cheap and generic projects, share our stupid ways
a.k.a.: scratch.mit.edu
Type of site: Programming
Learning
Language: Various
Created by: Mitchel Resnick
Andrés Monroy-Hernández
Owner: Scratch Team
Date of launch: May 15, 2007 (1.x)
May 9, 2013 (2.0)
January 2, 2019 (3.0)
Status: Active


Scratch is a free educational block-based programming language that was developed by the Lifelong Kindergarten Group at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). There are 74 million registered users and 81 million shared projects on the site as of July 2021. It is geared towards kids ages to 8-16, from 2nd grade to 11th. Prior to 2019, the site used to be pretty decent. However, ever since the release of Scratch 3.0 in 2019, the website has gone downhill.

Bad Qualities

  1. Scratch 3.0, while not terrible, is often considered inferior to its previous version for numerous reasons:
    1. It broke tons of sprites and projects.
      • Some examples of broken sprites are the pre-3.0 PTEs by -Rex-, and the Human 1.x characters.
    2. Uploading images takes up more memory than usual, and long-list items were cut off, yet the Scratch Team has done nothing to fix the broken sprites and projects and reduce memory.
    3. They removed a lot of features that 2.0 had, such as the magic wand tool.
    4. While they did change the way selecting audio works in 3.0 where if you were selecting parts of audio then it was have to have to start from either the end or the start of the audio back, they removed many of the effects and edits you could add for some reason.
    5. The website layout is inconsistent. Some pages have the 3.0 layout (like project pages and the search bar), but others have the 2.0 layout (like profile and studio pages).
  2. The moderation on the site has gotten worse, with some people getting banned for the tiniest or stupidest of reasons, and sometimes for no reason at all. The Scratch Team is also incredibly arrogant, sensitive, and biased most of the time, and you can get banned for calling them out for it. While the moderation wasn't all that good in the past, at least it was better than now. Examples of this are:
    1. Similar to DeviantArt, if a project gets reported enough times, it can automatically get taken down.
    2. One user made a project about a YouTuber and it was taken down as if it was stolen from YouTube. [1]
    3. They banned many users for contributing to the now-closed Crummy Scratchers Wiki which goes to show that they can't take criticism. [2] While it is true that the wiki had many problems such as unsourced claims and also the fact that the pages on the wiki would call the person bad rather than calling their projects bad, this is still a ridiculous way to go about things.
    4. When someone reports or contacts the ST on their profiles, they don't take action unless you use the "Contact us" where they don't reply. If you see a complaint/report on your profile, why don't you actually listen regardless of what method they used?
    5. They are also very vague when it comes to explaining why you got an alert.
  3. Many good Scratchers havebeen leaving or getting banned, and the ones who haven't barely get on anymore and make content, or are on hiatus because of drama, like -AboveTheRainbow.
    • Many users (mainly animators, and including famous ones) left shortly around the launch of 3.0, their reason being that they found 3.0 harder to use, as well as the horrendous instability of 3.0 back then.
  4. The Scratch Team has lied to their community multiple times.
    1. For example, they said they wouldn't take down any Five Nights at Freddy's projects that were kid-friendly. They did. (citation needed)
    2. They also said they would improve Scratch 3.0 in the future. They didn't (at least, not that much).
  5. The projects that get on the front page and "Trending" sections used to be good, but now they showcase a bunch of bad ones. This applies especially to games and animations.
    1. There are so many generic platformers on the site. Those platformers just consist of a title like "(something) - A Platformer," a thumbnail of a cube (usually with an eye) jumping over a spike, bland colors, you wall jump and jump over lava and spikes, and no real creativity. Even worse, they always clog the "Trending" section in games.
    2. Many poorly made animations clog the "Trending" section in animations nowadays.
    3. They recently started featuring projects that aren't feature worthy, especially foreign ones.
    4. There are many great projects that on the site are barely noticed, while all the bad ones get all the attention they don't deserve.
  6. There are several updates that didn't make the site much better, but rather worse:
    1. They removed the discuss button because "it might not be 100% clear to new Scratchers."
    2. There's the Tips button replacing the Discuss and Help buttons. By the way, the tips can be accessed in the project editor, giving no reason for the button and page to exist.
    3. They removed the "Recently Shared Projects" section on the front page, which makes it harder to find unnoticed projects to get noticed.
    4. While you can still see remix trees if you have a link to one, they removed the button to find them on projects in 3.0.
    5. When they change the studio layout to match 3.0 (which they, by the way, did after two years), they removed the ability for managers to edits the studio (changing the name, thumbnail, and description).
    6. The staff also added the load comments button, which caused the comments section to get buggier. Sometimes posting a comment will duplicate it into 3.
  7. The Scratch Team usually doesn't listen to community suggestions or requests on any issues. In fact, they even rejected a lot of cool ideas for very petty reasons. You can even get a warning just for having a different opinion over a staff member, showing how unkindly they take towards criticism.
  8. Inconsistent censorship:
    1. The site censors words in comments and then not censor certain words (like racial slurs) in the forums. However, this may be because of the limitations of Django, the software used on the forums.
    2. You're not allowed to share your Discord on the site, and they've censored the word in descriptions and comments as of 2020:
      1. They take down anything related to Discord, as well as Amino, as shown here, because there are no results for Discord, which doesn't look coincidental.
      2. Even before they censored Discord, you could still get banned for just mentioning it. This would also happen if you refer to the villain from My Little Pony or the literal meaning of "discord" for the former, or referring to amino acids for the latter.
        • For example, they permanently banned a user named NightCat28 for using the word. There's even a studio made about it.
    3. When using the text-to-speech extension, you can't type swear words, but it's laughably easy to get around, as you can literally put a space, replace a letter or repeat one anywhere in the word and it will go through.
    4. When the PewDiePie vs T-Series and "Sub to PewDiePie" campaign rose on Scratch, they censored the word "PewDiePie" in the search, we're not kidding.
      • This is most likely because they didn't like Optifict, the user promoting it.
  9. You can't have an honest opinion on something since the Scratch Team will consider it "unfriendly". The last alert in this screenshot is an example.
  10. Speaking of the ST considering something unfriendly, they will take down anything talking about stuff that happened as they will consider it disrespectful and will tell you to tell the Scratchers to not do something instead which makes no sense.
    • Something like this once happened to a Scratcher named SavageDLX when he told everyone that Optifict was banned. He got a warning not to spread gossip about others.
      • Again, this was probably because the ST had a grudge against Optifict.
  11. It has awful policies like no advertising user scripts and extensions, which led to massive controversy.
  12. If you get blocked for doing something on an alternate account, you must wait about 30 days after the latter gets unbanned to use your main account.
  13. There are many problems with sending emails:
    1. The ST takes a very long time to respond to emails now (takes up to 3 weeks minimum to 3 months max).
      • They claim it's because the COVID-19 pandemic caused the site traffic and emails sent to go up, but 3 weeks is long, even if "the COVID-19 pandemic caused the site traffic and emails sent to go up."
    2. Sometimes they don't even reply at all.
    3. When they DO reply, most of the time, they don't take action, they just use this response.
  14. Getting to be an Design Studio helper is too much work, even if it's to prevent people from hat collecting. Plus, they are sometimes biased towards SJF toadies when picking new people.

Good Qualities

  1. The site is still a great start for people who want to code. It's easy to understand and learn.
  2. The site was better in the past, especially before 3.0 was released.
  3. There are still some great projects on the site, although sadly most of them get barely any attention.
  4. A lot of the community is pretty friendly, despite having some annoying and toxic people in it.
  5. There are plenty of helpful users on the forums if you want additional programming help.
  6. You can see what's inside every project, which can sometimes be helpful if you don't know how to program something.
  7. Some improvements have at been done in Scratch updates.
  8. There were a few glitches fixed in 3.0.
    • One of the only things that 3.0 changed that was changed back was the change so that if you were selecting parts of audio then it was have to have to start from either the end or the start of the audio.
  9. Some of the worst Scratchers have been banned from the site.
  10. Even though the "New Scratchers" status ruins it for new users, games can have online multiplayer.
  11. You can see projects while IP banned.
  12. Of course, there are still lots of good scratchers, which you can read about on Astonishing Scratchers Wiki.
  13. Most of the problems that relate to the projects themselves are fixed in Turbowarp

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